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  1. Larry Snider Says:
    May 26th, 2007 at 12:45 am

    Dear Dan,

    Appreciate the article. We are kinda in the same bus. I work on educating American Jews and non-Jews alike. We may have to wait for a new Pres. to generate the kind of peace offensive necessary to move the two parties to a two state solution. While I’m not a great fan of H. Clintin maybe she can let Bill loose to do the international dancing necessary to align all the stars and push the principals to an agreement on peace with security. Did a article recently for OpEdNews, “Is Peace Possible in Hebron?”, you are welcome to have a look at http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_larry_sn_070504_is_peace_possible_in.htm

    Shabbat Shalom,

    Larry Snider

  2. Richard Witty Says:
    May 26th, 2007 at 10:25 am

    Who knows what Hamas is, or would do?

    I can’t tell if they are mostly Palestinian in orientation or mostly Islamicist.

    I can’t tell if they have “integrity” or if they are merely opportunistic thugs. I can’t tell if they would line their pockets, do horrible things for prestige (they do that), would betray every virtue (loyalty and/or justice).

    I can’t tell if they would ever regard Jews as human, assembly of Jews as just, Jews as peers.

    I can’t tell if they would ever regard the US as valid, the UN.

    I can’t tell if they are disciplined and subject to the deliberation of leadership or utterly undisciplined.

  3. Chana Says:
    May 26th, 2007 at 10:47 am

    I admire the honesty of this post, Dan. You are walking a difficult path here, aren’t you? I bet the left will call you a racist because you want nothing to do with Hamas. and the right will call you a traitor, and, let’s face it, most people in the center won’t bother to read your blog :) . But your path is the only one that makes at least a little sense.

    Someone please tell me the difference between “anti-Zionists” and “non-Zionists.” Seriously, I want to know, as I’ve only recently heard the latter term. Are they people like Jewish Voices for Peace who won’t take a stand on whether or not there should be a two-state solution but still pretend they are not biased against Israel and the Jewish state?

  4. Peter H Says:
    May 26th, 2007 at 11:24 am

    Dan,

    Thanks for responding to my comment. I’ll respond to your piece later, but, just so you know, that wording about a hudna giving Hamas “greater freedom & space” came from the proposal itself. It wasn’t my wording.

  5. Richard Witty Says:
    May 26th, 2007 at 3:53 pm

    There are religious that are “anti-Zionist” in that they regard the state Israel as a sin, a diversion, an action INSTEAD of “keeping my commandments”. The rationalizing attitudes of the neo-orthodox settler movement illustrate that. Consider that there is a sabbatical year coming up, and orthodox rabbis have determined that all land should lie fallow, a sabbath for a full year. The neo-orthodox are proposing that they sell the land to secular or Arab and still work the land, so that no “Jew” would have violated the sabbatical year. A bit of a rationalization (fabrication more than rationalization).

    The Satmar and Neturai Karta are genuinely anti-Zionist. More than even a distraction from “keeping my commandments”, they regard the state as a form of idolatry.

    In contrast, most of the ultra-orthodox are “non-Zionist”. They think that the state is useful for the protection that states give, the military protection of Jewish communities that would otherwise be in danger. But, they DON’T consider the state to be an example of the promised time of return, also largely because the prerequisite events of “keeping my commandments” have not occurred. In that regard, the promised time is attempted to be forced, neither earned, nor graced.

    Politically, there are those (using the left as an example) that are indifferent to their being a state of Israel. They may be Zionist socially, as in asserting the right of Jews to reside in the land. There are others that are “non-Zionist” for emphasis on democracy, as in one-person one-vote and from a state of genuine peer status.

    Others actively oppose Zionism (“anti-Zionist”), describing it as an obstacle or contradiction with democracy.

    I’m 2/3 of the way between Zionism requiring a state, and non-Zionist (emphasizing the right and importance of safe Jewish community).

    I don’t regard the state as a part of the messianic process (as many of the neo-orthodox do), primarily as a distraction.

    On the other hand, I am obviously not orthodox, as I’m typing this on Shabbat, but am observant in that I do practise the ten commandments and elaborations to best of my understanding of their spirit. If the health of the world depended on the vigilance of my practise, the world would get sick pretty quick.

    On the other hand, I do sincerely apply the instructions to “love thy neighbor as thyself”, to the extent that I’m able and doing so by:

    Loving reality (not an idol)
    Loving God (present)
    Not stealing
    Not committing adultery
    Not killing
    Not coveting my neighbor’s possession
    Honoring my parents
    Resting and enjoying on shabbat
    Not demeaning others, inevitably ignorantly (judgement is the Lord’s)
    Not taking reality trivially (“not taking the Lord’s name/expression in vain”)

  6. IbrahamAv Says:
    May 26th, 2007 at 8:57 pm

    My understanding is that non-zionists are those who have no opinion and no stake in the matter. Sort of the same being as a non-Jew or a non-zenist or a non-greek.

    But an anti-zionist would be an individual who opposed zionism. However, as there is no clear definition of zionism, other then the hopes of the Jews to return to their homeland, the ‘anti’ side is a confusing lot.

    Let us start with a given. All Jews who identify themselves as Jews in a religious context are, by definition, classic zionists. Even those strange jewish cults who believe Jews may not rule there are still classic zionists.

  7. Tom Mitchell Says:
    May 27th, 2007 at 2:30 pm

    IbrahamAv,
    You’re wrong. Classical Zionism was a non-religious phenomenon by Jews in Eastern Europe who were tired of waiting for the Mashiach to come and improve their lot. They were nationalist Jews who thought of Jewishness in an ethnic sense rather than Judaism. Most Orthodox up until the founding of Israel in 1948 were anti-Zionist or, at best, non-Zionist. The original Rav Kook represented a small minority of religious Jews within mandatory Palestine. Most Zionist within Palestine were not religious, and most religious Jews within Palestine were not Zionist. This has only gradually begun to change since 1948 because of Israel’s educational system and the rise of religious Zionism since 1967.

  8. Dan Fleshler Says:
    May 28th, 2007 at 9:41 pm

    Chana,

    I have often wondered the same thing. I think that these days, “non-Zionist,” has become a kind of catch-all description for those who understand that at least some of the reasons for establishing a Jewish state were not invalid or immoral, and have at least a little patience with the so-called “Zionist left” as long as it is harshly critical of the occupation, But they have no patience whatsover with Israel as a whole. They are unwilling to commit themselves to a 2-state solution or a 1-state solution and unwilling to endorse the right of the Jewish state to exist, So, in practical terms, the difference between an anti-Zionist and a non-Zionist is mostly a matter of rhetorical style.

  9. Ibraham Av Says:
    May 29th, 2007 at 9:37 pm

    Tom, You are confusing Classical Zionism with political zionism.

    All Jews who identify themselves as Jews, religiously, are Classic Zionists.

    Political Zionism, a relatively new form of Zionism, is secular in nature. However, once Israel became a fact, the Orthodox quickly accepted the idea. Most Jews accept political zionism as well as the religious version. All Jews who identify themselves as Jews, religiously,
    accept the religious version.

  10. Tom Mitchell Says:
    May 30th, 2007 at 3:59 pm

    Ibraham Av,
    If you invent your own definitions like you invent your own nomme de plume, you are right. But since Zionism is a political doctrine we have to go back to the late 19th century when it first appeared in the writings of authors like Moses Hess, Theodor Herzl et al. and organizations like hovevei Zion. Or is this just the religous Zionists trying to rewrite history?

  11. Realistic Israeli Says:
    May 31st, 2007 at 8:14 am

    Happy Memorial Day???

    That’s the difference between the United States and Israel.

  12. Dan F Says:
    May 31st, 2007 at 12:58 pm

    Realistic,

    You’re right. Stupid choice of words. My apologies

  13. Ibraham Av Says:
    June 1st, 2007 at 5:01 am

    Tom, you confuse religious doctrine with political doctrine. Don’t dilute your argument trying to change the terms. You can deny that Zionism permiates Judaic writing for over 1000 years, but then you’d only be fooling yourself.

    Political Zionism is just the more recent expressions of this religious goal.

  14. Ibraham Av Says:
    June 1st, 2007 at 5:02 am

    Tom, you’re beginning to remind me of Arafat and his claim that Jews have nothing to do with Jerusalem.

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